In this video from the 2011 Telos Conference, held on January 15–16 in New York City, Adrian Pabst interviews Peter Candler from Baylor University in Waco, Texas. Peter gave a controversial and provocative paper entitled “Outside the Church There is No Death.” The starting point of the paper is the recent health care reform in the United States and the dominant discourse on life and death. The conversation discusses how much of secular discourse reduces life to little more than chemical processes that terminate with death. By contrast, the Christian idea of Incarnation and Resurrection offers a different account of human life in terms of personhood and of death as a genuinely a tragic loss that nevertheless does not mark the end but the transition to a different kind of union of body and soul.